Two Marys 7-26-13

The Two Marys 7/26/13 Channeled by Jessie Keener Transcribed/Edited by Joel D. Anastasi

Greetings beloveds. Greetings beloved channel. Greetings beloved Joel:

We are the Two Marys entwined in this frequency for the purpose of supporting humankind in their Ascension Process. Ascension, expansion, the rising and the raising of consciousness, the becoming of oneself into a larger whole. These are the resonances of what’s up right now. These are the resonances the Two Marys are entwined in.

We have been asked by this channel to come in at a very high level, in fact, at the highest level that this channel can resonate with, and she remembered to ask for that with ease and grace. Therefore, it will not harm her physical form. It will be a higher frequency than what has been channeled through her previously.

These are very, very interesting times, beloveds. These are times that are unprecedented even though they contain shadows, resonances, former harmonics of what has come before. Never in human kind has there been this much intensity all connected on the surface of the planet.

In the past, in order for things to transform, to mutate, to shake apart so that more could happen, either (it came) from extraterrestrials not from this planet coming in and creating a disruption of the status quo and bringing more literally into humanity or Mother Gaia herself had to unleash the activation of her systematic disruptions so that major change could happen.

Now we have a situation with our beloved Gaia, with our beloved humanity, where everything is happening all at once. We have disruptions from human force, much control and manipulation, much violence, much intensity. We have huge manipulations of the weather patterns and grids, so much force through electro-magnetics, x-rays, etc. We have humanity being killed off in unprecedented numbers and the mammal life, insect life and the lives of reptiles; amphibians are all ending in unprecedented numbers.

So what does this really have to do with you?  Well, if you are not experiencing disruption in your life, you are completely in denial because each one of you is, of course, a mirror of the greater whole. You source the greater whole, and you mirror the greater whole.

So for those listening, not just this channel, not just beloved Joel, but those in the future, ask yourselves, am I truly, deeply disrupted about something?

Because if you’re not disrupting yourself, if you’re not using, as Joel likes to say, life as a learning laboratory, if you are not pushing yourself, pressing yourself to make more room for compassion, for joy, for forgiveness, for gratitude, then truly it will be your opportunity to continue to shut down.

So we ask you, do you really want to light up? If you do, the steps are very clear and fairly simple. If you are not pressing into that you will be actively shutting down. For the forces are too great. The intensity is too much. The human body was made for this.

It is so interesting to witness so many things at once. Yesterday this channel discovered herself saying to the parent of a small child, “Do you realize that this trend where parents let the children decide how to eat, what to eat, when to eat and how much of it to eat is less than 100 years old on the planet? In less than 100 years this trend has created obesity in children and our first cases of adult onset diabetes in children. And yet that experiment is only 100 years old.”

Then we juxtapose that against the conversation that you and this channel were having earlier about how foreign it seems to many people to have compassion and fulfilling relationships with deceased masters and gurus, with those who have transcended the plane, or perhaps never incarnated on this third dimension but come to other dimensions to assist. That seems so foreign to many, and yet, it has been going on since the very beginning of life on this planet.

So we have a situation where the human body simply cannot endure how much energy is being lost through the lines of force, which are completely invisible as we have mentioned—the human hypnosis lines of force, the invisible force of the electro-magnetic fields and the other types of vibrations and rays that are harmful to the human body.

People are waking up and that is great news. The other great news is that in order to activate the light body there is nothing missing in the knowledge bank of what’s already on your plane. In other words, there is no lost secret information any more. The information is here. It is already being received. It is already being taught. It is simply a matter of each student deciding to put their head down, put the yoke on and really get to work.

What does this work look like? This work looks like daily practices. It looks like remembering that the ego is always in the game of seduction into separation. The only way to win is to continuously bring oneself back to the practices of completion, connection and enwholement.

You both are practicing and that, indeed, is paying off. You both see that. It is a deep awareness. You know people who practice, maybe not the same practices but the fruit of the practices are showing up in their lives. This will be a time of great distinction. Those that are practicing will have some disruption and indeed that is the nature of life on your surface. But they will be the ones who seem to land on their feet, seem to create a solution out of bizarre chaos, who seem to include others in an empowerment process rather than a dramatic melt-down. So the fruits will be recognized.

There is so much excitement about what is happening in consciousness on your surface. Never before has this huge number of people been connected through things like conference calls, such as this, and the Internet. So we are witnessing something very special. There is no need to invent something new any more. It is truly about co-creating the environment that precipitates the consciousness. Does this make sense?

J: It does. As you’re talking I’m thinking about, as you have said many times, the importance of having a soul family so when we lapse, which we all will do, we have a soul family to be part of our support system to remind us and to give us strength and encouragement and perspective.

M: Indeed, and that is the human way. Humans are communal beings. It is essential to the well being of each and every human to have an infrastructure of either family or a new family. Perhaps the family of origin was not acceptable or healthy enough so that student had to create a new family. It is essential to being whole and being well.

J: I’m not in any way denigrating the people, who form my biological family, but there really isn’t much of a support system there in terms of understanding and resonating with my spiritual consciousness and my understanding of what life here on Earth is all about. It just isn’t there.

M: It is not, and that is far more normal than you might think. It is actually exceptional on your planet when multiplicities of consciousness wake up in a family. That is an exception, not the rule. The rule seems to be that people have to seek it outside of their families. The family is there to support certain karmic lessons, to create certain pathways for individuals. When they do set out to find their new family, they create a safe place to do their healing work and that is essential.

Let us remind every one of you that everyone chooses certain lessons, certain woundings, certain opportunistic breakdowns in their families so they can advance themselves spiritually. It is almost like creating your own video game before you come in.

You decide which system, which family, which scars—not the actual incident in all its details but a certain type of wounding, a certain type of trauma, which you will experience as souls in a human form.

As you are learning, beloved Joel, channel and students, it is through the healing of the wounding that great compassion is born, and that is the point. The point is to become more and more compassionate with yourself and with others and with the process of enwholement.

J: When we were preparing the Ascension Handbook you said that the interest in the Handbook would grow as mankind experienced the dramatic changes that you said were coming. I believe in our last conversation you said that we were preparing to be calm in the face of the storms that were coming and people would notice that. Today your comments about everything happening at once seemed to indicate that what you said would be unfolding is, in fact, unfolding, and as we continue to expand our consciousness we will become magnets for those who can no longer find answers in the usual 3D institutions they used to rely on for wisdom. As we demonstrate the wisdom you and others are teaching, you said we will attract attention and curiosity and, thereby, spread the wisdom.

M: Indeed, and that is how it works. It is not that different from when we walked with our little primitive leather sandals and our loose fitting gowns on the surface and literally taught the word of the Christ, taught the way of the heart, and practiced our exercises so that we would remain true to the mission as opposed to falling into our egos and corrupting the mission. It is a mission that each one of you is on and, indeed, your humanity is on. They are one and the same.

The only way that anyone can influence humanity is through influencing oneself. We are witnessing that. We are witnessing more people wanting to influence themselves in an intelligent way. People are waking up to self-destructive behaviors, to addictions, patterns, divorces, the same thing happening over and over. They are literally saying, there has to be a better way, another path that gets me out of this hell on Earth.

Some of the older institutions, older churches, structures that used to be helpful are not so helpful any more. This is a new millennium; therefore, it makes perfect sense to have new structures, new organizations, virtual communities, versus a stone and pillar community. As you go forward over the next three or four months there will be a quantum leap in consciousness around ease with technology, ease with virtual conferencing, ease with all of that. It is coming, beloveds, and you are already operating in it. So rejoice.

Rejoice that you get to share your discoveries, your passions, your heart spaces and your ascension literally with many, many others who are looking for permission to do the same in their very own lives, in their own way, each being their own artist.

J: I used your comments last time about Edward Snowden in my last blog, and I intend to draw content from today’s discussion for my next blog. I was wondering if there is anything you might like to add to expand your comment about everything is happening at once. I think a lot of people are aware of a quickening, but I’m not sure they see it as a spiritual phenomenon. It’s just the news.

M: Indeed, literally it is the news with all the addiction and drama that goes with that. If one simply studies the weather patterns and not from the perspective, of, well, that’s the news, there’s no explanation for all of this. It’s just happening. That is, of course, a fairly unconscious interpretation. If one studies what the meteorologists are actually saying, they’re saying, we’re confounded. We have no precedence for these kinds of things. We are seeing things we’ve never seen before. We have no experience with this. If that doesn’t excite the ones waking up, we have no idea of what will.

J: I just read on the Internet that the glacial melting seems to be speeding up. The implications of that are astonishing.

M: Indeed, you will hear many reports over the next 24 months about how scientists thought one thing and then discovered that they were wrong. They couldn’t conceive of what is actually happening in 2013 and how that would influence and speed things up much more than ever before.

There have been consistent experiments and weather manipulations with the chi, as you refer to them. These are such new experiments that there is no precedence; there is no ability to mathematically predict how these influences would change the heating of the surface of the Earth. Of course, that is what happened. The manipulations that the teams set out to create were to slow down global warming. What they could not predict was how those particulates when they fell to the Earth would create more global warming. In fact it would advance at a rate that nobody could calculate because nobody had ever sprayed these types of particulates throughout the atmosphere over and over and over, day in and day out.

So something very interesting is going on. Again, there is only one way to deal with that. Be the impartial observer. That means I must continue to surrender, practice my practices and activate my light body. There is nothing else to do except to increase your compassion, increase your joy at your connection and your gratitude about your connection and keep practicing. The more you resonate with your higher realms the more you bring that chi, that frequency, into your being, into your dimensionality as a human and you create enormous influence in the fields around you.

J: We have been working with the idea of the We consciousness which involves sensitivity to the consequences of our behavior on others. There are many people who are being enriched by the industrial practices that are destroying and polluting our world and affecting our climate. They are so organized and powerful that perhaps the only way for mankind to organize our collective power may be to have catastrophes that galvanize public opinion into action and to say, no, to these harmful practices. I have this terrible vision of the ice cap on Greenland slipping into the ocean and suddenly Manhattan is under water.

M: Indeed, and this channel has a vision of it having the same effect on Florida.

J: Yes, and the polluters who are reaping huge profits from their destructive activities are not paying for the consequences of their behavior. We, the general population, are paying through storm damage, flooding and the other effects we are experiencing. We’ve been talking about our spiritual practices lightening our light bodies, but I’m concerned that it may take a major catastrophe to force a shift in consciousness. Is that a plausible thought?

M: Absolutely, for that is how it works. It has always worked that way. There have always been catastrophes when nothing else would shake things up. For the expansion is the reason. If things get too stagnant, if humanity gets caught in the muck and the mire for too long and would you not agree that this has been long enough? So if nothing else will work then great catastrophes will assist and expedite the expansion process. Remember, we have said this before; humans do not pleasure themselves into Ascension, into their expansion. It is through great floods, through events that wipe out entire civilizations in weeks or days. These are the types of things that historically have happened because humans are so stubborn and so addicted to being right about how separate they are.

When you say that certain people are reaping the rewards and they are not paying the price that is not quite accurate. It certainly is accurate on the third dimension. But when you start to look into the psyche of these individuals and their physical bodies, there is great suffering, and there will be more suffering and more suffering. They will be stuck for a very long time in the wheel of karma.

So it is awkward at best when everyone can witness so much disparity. It’s hard (for these souls) to imagine how they may have to work through eons of lifetimes after this because they manipulated, controlled, and essentially raped and pillaged hundreds if not thousands if not millions of people. It’s hard for humans to imagine what kind of suffering through the wheel of Karma might come next. We assure you the payment is profound.

J: Karma is the great balancer.

M: Indeed, so Mother Earth becomes the great balancer. Each one of you is a great balancer. And for those addicted to their denial that are still manipulating and using force to control others, they will stay in denial until it is far too late. Then they will simply have to be a very lowly creature all over again at the lowest level of life form.

J: At the lowest level of life form? You mean non-human?

M: Non-human.

J: I guess I don’t have a clear picture of what that karmic wheel looks like.

M: There are times when the abominations are so great that it must go back before humans and spend some time there not being human.

J: So would they be other life forms? What would be an example?

M: Indeed. It could be on any planet not like this. For example, a planet where there is no heart center. There is simply intellect and everyone is entering through a certain theme or certain structure. These individuals have to learn how to exist in that and to cooperate and get along before they’re even given permission to have a heart space and be human.

J: Wow, there is so much I don’t know. I was listening recently to a CD of Conversations With God Book Two in which God talks about the Hitler experience. God likened Hitler to the consciousness of an undeveloped child, who you would not punish but would provide opportunities to grow into a more loving being. All human infractions were discussed within the context of evolving spiritual consciousness, not as punishable acts. There were no references whatsoever to going back to an earlier form of evolution.

M: Indeed, and yet some would say, wow, being an alien in a colony working towards a common goal for a common master, is that better than or worse than being human? So it’s all perspective, beloved. It is simply a point that we were making that sometimes the soul itself needs to be removed and has to experience itself in a place before humanity is even possible.

J: So it’s like pre-school.

M: Indeed, much like pre-school where the basics are learned. Wash your hands after going to the rest room. Always say thank you when you are served your snacks. These are the basic things that certain beings may have to go and be assigned and learn for they absolutely knew what they were doing in this lifetime.

J: In our January 4th discussion you made a reference to getting kicked out of boot camp. I think you’re talking about getting kicked out of boot camp here.

M: Boot camp is over. It is now time to run the race. So for the people who resonate with advancing their consciousness, to truly resonate with that, this will not be an easy time, for the temptation to judge what is occurring outside of oneself will be at an all time high. It is more like boot camp is over and now you are in the officer’s club, and you must figure out, OK, how do I behave like an officer with all that is going on around here, all of these chaotic disruptions and eruptions?

So it is about being still, finding that still point in the midst of the chaos. It is about remaining true to that still point in the midst of chaos. That is not a new theme. That is what the Buddha talked about. That is what your modern day Buddha, Eckhart Tolle talks about. It is a very simple and recurring theme, finding that exquisite space, neutrality, inside of one’s being such that no matter what is happening, it is all love, it is all peace, it is all compassion. And that is, of course, the most exquisite dance any human can engage in.

J: I feel very blessed. Omar, Mary Liz, Doug and I have begun meeting and I feel the strength of having that little soul group. And, of course, I have my talks with Jessie and you two plus all the spiritual work with the Angel News Network and the teachings we have been given. You’ve really helped prepare us to be in a state of consciousness to ride through the chaos if we stay conscious in a very steady, wise way.

M: Indeed, and there is such a rational sensibility to it, do you not agree? So it is all about continuing to strengthen those muscles, the muscles of surrender, of acceptance, of compassion, of forgiveness, of gratitude. And remembering students, the illusion will be seductive.

This is a very important time for humanity. The next 24 months are going to be the biggest ride of anyone’s life to date. There can be great, great and exquisite joy within that, and, if one is not careful, if one is not full of care, they will be seduced. They will enter the state of separation, and the agony will be horrific.

And here is the rub. The human body is always responding and reacting to whatever consciousness the human is sponsoring; therefore, if one is in separation and agony, what do you think the physical form will be doing? It will be falling down with disease or becoming crippled or becoming mentally incoherent with dementia. You see that all around you even with very young people. It will not be about age. It will be about the thoughts they are sponsoring and the level of penetration that these harmful physical forces have on the individual.

J: I don’t think you’re talking about anything that the Ascension Handbook doesn’t address, are you?

M: No, nothing. The Handbook is complete, beloved. It is a holographic piece that anyone from any angle of this discussion can simply enter in almost as if they were harnessing themselves physically into the discourses. There is nothing that will come up that isn’t already addressed. That is why we keep reminding you in this dialogue today, there is nothing new needed. It is simply a matter of returning to the practices over and over, returning to love over and over, forgiving oneself when you trespass and returning to love as quickly as possible and vowing that the very next time it happens you will return even quicker.

J: That is so beautiful. All of the discourses are wonderful, but I keep thinking the last one, Mastering Discomfort, as the mother lode even though all of it is important.

M: You and this channel have the exact same affinity for that final chapter. She calls it the crowning glory of the book. And that is accurate. As we promised in the beginning, each chapter would build on itself. And, of course, that is what happens. Mastering discomfort is the key. Mastering discomfort is absolutely what is going to carry each and every student into their Ascension.

It is often forgotten that great ecstasy is actually not comfortable in the body. It is extremely intense. It takes a lot of nervous system responsiveness to do it well. And it takes a lot of breath work to stabilize oneself in those very high frequencies. That is work. It will be child’s play at some point but initially it is a true endeavor and a lot of work.

J: It’s so wonderful when I listen to or read something like the Conversations with God books. I haven’t looked at CWG book two in perhaps a decade. Of course, I’m in an entirely different place now. The wisdom is so consistent with your teachings and those of Michael and Gabriel. They all reinforce each other.

M: It is a time of great gathering of consciousness. We, the Two Marys, are extremely interested in how this will go in the short term—all these very small communities being formed all over the world working with technology connecting the dots, so to speak. One group might be focused more on the actual resonance of the Gaia and of the human heart. Others will be more focused on bringing multi-dimensional bodies of work to humanity to help people grow and be more profoundly connected spiritually, whether it is through actually living in community to build the body through breath work and yoga practices.

These communities will all be very different, but they’ll all be coming from the very same notion, which is that it is the connection that matters. It is being connected that matters. When two or more are gathered in the consciousness of the Christ why then all things are possible.

J: I would like to ask three questions all relating, I think, to what you just talked about. Robert Baker passed into a different dimension about two months ago. Mary Liz believes she received a message from Robert when she was reading, the Second Coming. It was about reaching out to me in a partnership. The Blended Marys a couple of days ago confirmed that Robert was calling me into a closer partnership than he was able to form with me when he was in the third dimension because of his wounding. I wondered if you had a perspective on that.

M: We would simply say what has already been said. We want you to know that it is, of course, your destiny to work more with this particular frequency and to continue to be a facilitator of this information.

J: Robert invited me to be bolder. I don’t like to go out there and beat the bushes. I like to write, and I will do workshops and book discussion groups and that kind of thing. I would like your perspective on what boldness represents.

M: Boldness is courage connected to forward movement, action. So boldness quite simply means to boldly decide to set aside 30 minutes a day with your automatic writing and ask Gabriel and Robert to give you some wisdom of the day. That is bold.

J: Thank you for that. Jessie brought up the new workshop she is doing with Paula and Winston. Do you have any observation or counsel?

M: We simply wish to remind Jessie, and this is personal for her, to sit in that depth of her heart space where we connect with her, and any time that any concern about the workshop arises, go back to that connection, sit in the space of that and know that everything is going perfectly.

J: That’s good advice for both of us.

M: Indeed.

J: You’ve often made the point that advice for one is advice for all.

M: Indeed.

J: And the third question is we at the Angel News Network, Jeff, Phillip and I, have been talking with Jonah Bolt. Jonah seems to be working with this universe of burgeoning activities. He is a young man who is very enthusiastic and appealing. We’ve been talking about bringing our Divine Discussions to television/video to reach a greater audience. Wondered if you have some perspectives about that?

M: We will give you a fifth dimensional perspective. Then we will give you a human thing to be aware of. It is always in your best interest to create actions that get the work out to more people.

Yet, it is always about balance. So as long as there is balance to the endeavor, as long as there is peace and gratitude in the endeavor itself in bringing that information out, as long as the steps taken are taken with grace and appreciation, then it will work.

The thing I caution, and this is Mother speaking, is the human side of this. For you have many different personalities all working together. Yet, some do not have the ability to team well and others do. So it might be in your best interest to get very clear about what your exact needs are and as it unfolds what they continue to be. Does it change? What do I need now? Now that this has happened what do I need? Now that we’re doing this, what do I need? If you allow it to have strength, if you give it some boldness, it will serve you greatly. But if you sublimate that part, if you don’t connect with that part and give it a voice, you will become very, very stressed as certain disruptions occur with the process.

J: That’s interesting. You may be referring to something else, but here is what I thought of when you said that. When you say bold in the discussions I think of the interaction that takes place in our discussions between the spiritual entities and myself.  When Phillip channels I don’t know what entity will come through. The entities begin with a teaching and then I ask questions about the subject they have talked about, trying to connect it to what is going on in our world. I love doing that. I think it makes the discussions real and relevant. That to me is bold. Is that the boldness you’re referring to or are you referring to something else?

M: Indeed, that is a great talent of yours, and that is the boldness we are speaking of—to be able to blatantly, not only accept the information but make it tenable to others and to bring it into the integration of what’s happening in your world and how resonant this information truly is. That is bold. It reminds us of the thing you were saying to this channel earlier about the friend of yours who said, well, Joel, go ahead and believe all this stuff if you want to, as if it was an option not to.

J: I look at the sickly, unhappy life he is leading as is his friend Robert. I’ve given them both my books and they have shown no interest. What beliefs do they embrace that are uplifting? They have none. 

M: Absolutely nothing. It is on the one hand tragic and on the other hand perfect. The tragic part being, of course, that you know what some other options might bring to them and, therefore, it brings you sadness to witness.

That these are people you reached out to and attempted to assist, attempted to be of service and contribute to and yet they are not having the ears or the interest in developing themselves that way.

That has been going on for a long, long time. It happened to us over and over and over. We learned to conserve our energy. We learned to become more discerning. We learned to simply accept that pain and suffering was an option that most human beings were going to exercise. And they were going to do it without any awareness that something else was available.

J: You made it clear early on that you were not here to tell stories about your time on Earth. That was not what your energy was about. But from time to time you have described some of the challenging conditions and experiences you encountered in serving your mission. I sometimes think of the contrast between the frightening, hostile world you often were encountering compared to the relative comfort in our modern time. I’m so impressed by the courage and strength you displayed to carry on and grow in that environment.

M: Of course, as you know beloved, courage is the gift that doesn’t stop giving. In other words, as long as we continued to deepen our courage, to feed the fires, so to speak, there was never an issue. But the challenge was if one of us exercised weakness it could jeopardize the entire mission.

It was a tiny mission. It was not a giant community of hundreds and hundreds of people all meditating on the telephone at the same time. It was a very different type of reality. In a weird way, there were many fewer distractions for us. Because of the breath work and the meditations we were doing, we did put ourselves to sleep at night, beloved.

We really did let go. We really did restore ourselves. We really did have a good night’s sleep. And that’s actually almost a novelty in your current world—someone working hard in the mission, really having challenges and stresses and yet having enough serenity to at the end of the day just lie down, sometimes on rocks, and breathe ourselves into bliss.

So in a way it was harsh and in a way it was cruel; yet, imagine seeing the starry night with no streetlights. So there was a beauty, a stunning beauty to it as well. There was a connection to the earth and her seasons and her fruits and her creations as well. So, it’s all about balance. It had its hardships. It had its joys, and we would never ever say that it was harder for us then than it is for any of you right now. For that is not true.

J: It’s a little amazing to hear you describe your mission, from the perspective of two thousand years later, a tiny mission. To us, of course, it was world changing. I would like you to respond to that, of course. But first I’d also like to mention another thought that I had, which is this. Those in your time who were writing and recording events and teachings weren’t worried about making them best sellers or how big the audience was.

We’ve been working hard to create our various books and workshops for fairly small audiences. You were doing small things also that, of course, in time grew into a much larger experience for a great many people. That perspective is valuable for me because we create pressures for ourselves to attract ever-larger audiences for our work. It’s useful to remember that your efforts really started small and grew in impact over time. You sort of confirmed that when you described your mission as tiny.

M: Indeed. It was a tiny mission with a stunning power. There is no power greater to teach humanity than the Christ Consciousness. It is for humans the gateway to the Godhead. It is almost silly to try to give it words such as Christ Consciousness for it is a state of being that was actually going on for humans before Jesus came in, the difference being it was a fleeting achievement, a glimmer of this, a glimmer of what the heart to God is like. But it wasn’t sustainable  (before Jesus). It wasn’t teachable. It was just something that some Avatars had and then lost over time. So ours was a tiny mission with a giant power, and there were extreme forces against us. Now does that sound familiar?

J: Yes. (Laughing).

M: Indeed, for it is all the same thing over and over and over. Until Ascension is achieved it will be mostly familiar stories about going forward no matter what. Never saying, I give up, that’s enough. Always understanding that the return to love is the most important contribution.

J: You said once that we should gain comfort from small steps forward or of progress. That was helpful.

M: Indeed, and it is accurate that when you were being a scribe in that lifetime of Jesus, you did not worry about how you were going to sell your stories.

J: Right (laughing).

M: There was not a sense of, will this be on Amazon.com? Will it be on your New York best sellers lists? No, indeed, it was just the excitement, much like you, beloved Joel, in this lifetime when you listened to beloved Robert bring Gabriel through, and you listened to the intelligence. You resonated with the intelligence, and you knew you wanted to record it, but not for the sake of getting others to pay money for it. For the sake of recording it so it could be preserved appropriately without losing the wisdom.

J: Was I chipping away with a chisel or was I writing with some sort of a pen?

M: You used both and at one point you were definitely chipping away with a chisel because the pen had long since dried up.

J: I was picturing myself with a chisel wondering, how did I do that? How did I keep up?

M: You had your own form of short hand with your chisel and your tablet. You were very gifted and talented in that lifetime and had quite the mental ability. You created an entire short hand so that you did not have to make so many strokes on the tablets.

J: Are any of those tablets still buried somewhere?

M: There are still some buried, yet to be discovered. It is potentially possible they will be discovered. Some have broken through Earth shifting, plates moving and that sort of thing. It will be interesting to see if some of the ones in some caves will be discovered, for some of these caves are still being explored and, depending on how much interest remains, there still is a likelihood that one or two of your scrolls will be found.

J: This almost sounds like a movie. Omar and I could write a movie script where I get this wisdom from you and then we go into the ancient lands to find my old tablets and scrolls. (Laughing). Maybe we should all get together and start writing screenplays.

M: Indeed, and that is the way of the world, is it not? Everything keeps evolving, but it’s the same thing. It’s the same exact thing. It’s just taking place a little differently. So it is a movie; it’s just a very, very spiritual movie.

J: The last comment I want to make involves the passing of the most spiritually connected people who I really loved in my life, Robert Baker and Tom Fronterhouse.

I realize that is the story of the Earth where it’s a passing parade of people, and it’s our time to step up and be what they were for others. That is our role and how it is and what our responsibilities are.

M: Indeed, and that is a very conscious thing you just said, beloved Joel. It is a responsibility. And one bit of motherly advice. When you look at how those individuals left, what they left, ask yourself, is there anything I would do differently? Is there anything I would like to be aware of with my resonance as I look at the completion of my relationship with the physical? Do I have everything I need to have to feel confident about that?

Now it is not to say that you will not go on to practice great immortality practices. We are not excluding that possibility. Either way, you will need to be complete with your physical form and all the attachments that go with. For when you activate your light body and become multidimensional, you may decide that it is no longer on purpose for you to keep coming back into a physical body. Do you understand?

J: I do. I thought I had decided not to.

M: Indeed, it is your choice. So for some they will choose to come back and forth, back and forth manifesting themselves or re-materializing themselves. Others will be so delighted with their newfound freedom that they will be off playing and dancing in other realms.

J: That’s a perspective that I can’t even begin to contemplate. Obviously I know so little about all the options.

M: Indeed, and the best part is you need not know anything. There is no need to know a thing about the options. Just know that there are options.

J: When I pass over, am I still going to be in contact with you? Will I still be able to have a relationship with you?

M: Beloved Joel, it would be impossible for you not to.

J: Good.

M: Indeed, our work together is ongoing, and we said that to you at the very beginning. We have been working before and the work is ongoing. So, much like with this channel, there is always that place in her soul signature that she connects with us. There will always be that place in your soul signature.

J: It always takes me a little time for me to get my land legs after I relocate as I have here, and a lot has happened in the two months since I arrived. I’m starting to get a little more grounded, a little more discipline about next steps. I’ve been in a breathing space between cycles. Maybe we can pick up a discussion about discipline the next time we talk.

M: Indeed, discipline is a fabulous one.

J: I know. You like that don’t you. (Laughing).

M: Indeed, for we really, really like freedom, and we understand that discipline is the absolute undertaking to harvest the freedom.

J: Hmm. What a lovely way to put it. Well thank you so much. I have nothing more to ask. Anything you want to add?

M: Beloveds, just trust. Trust the more you practice, the more certainty you will have. Understand this, your confidence comes from your connection with you and breathing and moving and using your mantras, your words and your affirmations. Your connection is your most precious gift. Cherish it. Start each day with the notion, “I cherish my connection.” As you go through your day, cherish that connection. And watch what happens just from that subtle awareness that you are cherishing that.

J: Beautiful. Thank you.

M: Indeed, you are most welcome, beloved Joel. And you are most welcome beloved Jessie. We thank the students who will be reading this in the future through your Internet or through whatever publications may come. We cherish your willingness to develop.

J: Thank you.

M: Be in peace.